Impeachment trial argument over whether to have an impeachment trial continues: Live coverage #3

The second impeachment trial of Donald J. Trump—this time for inciting an insurrection—is underway, with Tuesday bringing four hours of debate on whether it’s constitutional to hold an impeachment trial for someone who is no longer in office. If that sounds familiar, it’s because the Senate already voted once on this question, with five Republicans joining Democrats to say yes, it is.

The quality of the Trump team’s argument was previewed when one of the lawyers they cited in a pre-trial document said they misrepresented his work.

Assuming Republicans once again join Democrats in moving the trial forward, the coming days will bring up to 16 hours of arguments over two days from both the House impeachment managers and Trump’s defense team, followed by up to four hours of questions from senators, possibly followed by debate over whether to allow witnesses and subpoenas.

At no point should we lose sight of the fact that this trial is about an insurrection aimed at preventing Congress from certifying the presidential election, in which five people lost their lives.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:44:54 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Castor still at it. Now he’s arguing … people get elected all the time. So nobody should ever be impeached. I think. It’s no more coherent than anything else he’s said.

Oh he did say “President Biden.” Trump’s going to be angry.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:45:52 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Castor is genuinely arguing at this point that Trump’s antics failed to keep Biden out of the White House so … no harm, no foul.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:46:31 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Bruce Castor watches a lot of television. And he wants to share everything he’s seen with you.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:46:48 PM +00:00

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Joan McCarter

This is the “his attempted self-coup failed” defense.

— Daniel Goldman (@danielsgoldman) February 9, 2021


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:49:49 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

It always helps to have someone leading your impeachment strategy who doesn’t know what a “high crime” is.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:53:50 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Now David Schoen is up. He was Roger Stone’s (losing) attorney in his (losing) case. And he’s worried, sir. “My overriding emotion is one of wanting to cry because of what I believe this proceeding will do to our Constitution.” 


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:56:35 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Ah. Schoen  is firing off that the House is full of “elitists” who have sneered at the “deplorables.” You have to stop this, because some people voted for Trump.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:57:42 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Schoen  just threatened civil war if the trial isn’t halted. For unity, people have to just let Trump go.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 8:59:43 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Schoen is giving the angry, Roger Stone Q-flavored version of the speech. But he also seems to have forgotten that there’s supposed to be a legal argument about whether the impeachment can go forward.


Tuesday, Feb 9, 2021 · 9:00:31 PM +00:00

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Mark Sumner

Instead, Schoen is just threatening the Senate. That’s one approach, I guess.

Source: dailykos